Dbol is great for your first cycle id take 2 pills 2-3 hours before the gym. First 2 weeks i didnt notice much, but from week 3 - week 8... wow game changer my pumps were better, what i was able to lift was threw the roof. An towards the end i had insane gainz an even on my off cycle i actually kept 98% if not 100% of my gainz. But dieting moat definitely played a key role.